“The Horse’s Mouth with Tom McManus” is a unique talk show offering opinions and facts that come straight from the source. No gossip, no hearsay, no agendas; just topics straight from the Horse’s Mouth! His guests include top of the line, high profile figures in sports, news, entertainment, business and leaders in the community. He will tackle the hard subjects in society over a beer and laughs. Today our host, Tom McManus spoke with Courtland Smith of White Wolf Holistics and Megan Hayward of TAG
Transcript:
Speaker 1
From studio three at buzz TV. It’s the Horse’s Mouth with Tom McManus.
Speaker 2
All right. Welcome into another edition of The Horse’s Mouth here at Tommy Mac’s. Of course, at my bar, where everybody is welcome to have a seat and get a chance to tell their story. Brought to our good friends at Foodies Care, a great organization helping people out there in Northeast Florida and of course, the Daily News Network. This time around, we’re going to have a little holistic healing chat.
Speaker 2
My man Cortland Smith and a little software in the staffing with a friend of mine is, well, we’ll introduce her just in a minute. Let’s welcome in the panel. Let’s go with Cortland first. Hey, Cortland. How are you, buddy? Good to see you, White Wolf holistic. Tell us about it.
Speaker 3
It’s what I grew up with. Okay. So it’s a wellness center. It’s based on bringing awareness to the body. Get out of alignment with your posture. And just it’s bringing that awareness out because that’s what people are missing. They’re very numb to their bodies. You don’t know how good to you can feel because you’ve just slowly developed into where you are.
Speaker 3
Okay. Your body’s comfort zone is how you are now and it’s how I realign and we help you feel better. Then it’s like oh wow. You just change your, your frequency. You change your radio station to something. Now you know it’s possible. Yeah. And you know when you’re sliding backwards. So we have a lot of integrative therapies like our ozone sauna.
Speaker 3
Got really good PMF devices. Okay. We have holistic classes. I teach, tests for health kinesiology. Okay. Which helps you take care of yourself. Ask yourself all the questions with muscle testing. And you can do your own balances. So that’s good homework. Yeah. My goal for this is it’s about the work, not about the fluff.
Speaker 3
Right. If you’re looking for the fluff, don’t come.
Speaker 2
Yeah. Getting getting healthy. You know, I’ve done chiropractic work for a very long time. I was it made sense. So keep your spine in alignment and everything else should fall into place as long as you keep it healthy. Exactly. You know what I mean? But a lot of people are a little bit worried about it, especially with their neck.
Speaker 2
So I love getting my neck readjust. Like, it just it just it has all the pressure. It’s gone in my head. Everything that just makes a difference for me. But some people are a little, a little afraid of of having that, that done to them.
Speaker 3
Yeah, I do a lot of anterior cervical work. Okay. Whiplash people over. Oh, yeah. Forward. Yeah. That’s the. The next thing we’re seeing from very young age is they’re already developing that straight neck. Yeah. So we get in there and release those particular muscles. If you see me before seeing a chiro. Goes a lot easier.
Speaker 2
Okay.
Speaker 3
There’s so tight that when the chiro tries to go and do the adjustment. Yeah, it doesn’t quite take maybe.
Speaker 2
Yeah, sure.
Speaker 3
So I’m helping realign with the muscles. Yeah. And then it helps them do their job better.
Speaker 2
Ice or heat first. What do you go with? Ice or heat? Ice or heat? I ask this question because I go ice every time I freeze it. You freeze it. I do, I freeze the heck out of it.
Speaker 3
And it is. Or how.
Speaker 2
Long? Okay. Okay. That makes sense.
Speaker 3
Yeah.
Speaker 2
All right. Very good. Well, great to have you on the show, man. Appreciate. All right. Megan Hayward is here. Hey, Megan. How are you? You probably used to this talk, you know, being married to Reggie Hayward, our good friend and former NFL badass defensive end. But here, here to talk about your business called tag, a software company in the staffing world.
Speaker 2
Yes. Tell us about it, Megan.
Speaker 1
So, I developed tag out of a a need that I saw because I had a staffing agency and I staffed for a lot of. I did some NFL, I did some MLB, I did some. Okay. Big time staffing, basically. Big volume. And I saw this need in the market. Didn’t see anyone filling it. And so I said, well, why not me?
Speaker 1
Yeah. I had started my first staffing agency at the age of 24. And so when I sold it, you know, the same mentality carried over. No one told me I was crazy, so I just figured it out. And, it’s it’s gone. Really? Well, we staff, we’re located in 330 ish markets around the US and Canada.
Speaker 1
Wow. Currently staffing in about 180. Okay. And, literally anywhere you could need staff. We drive, business to local staffing agencies in those areas. Okay. My mom actually owns one of the staffing agencies that we partner with. Okay. And, so it’s a way, way to drive business to small business, but also make sure that we have boots on the ground in those cities versus someone in Jacksonville, Florida, telling you what you should do in Chicago.
Speaker 2
Yeah, right. Right. So you mentioned off air a lot of blue collar, right? Yeah. Concerts, events, warehousing, industrial, any construction, all that. There’s stuff I mean, that I know, but there’s a big need for that, isn’t there?
Speaker 1
There is, there is. And we are primarily, events. That’s like the, you know, that’s our bread and butter. But we do dabble in all the blue collar industries. Most staffing does, they’re not super niche because a lot of people are versatile. Yeah. Right across markets. So, yeah. So we have our fingers in a quite a few different pies and it’s working really well.
Speaker 2
What’s your favorite part? I mean, it’s your baby you created and I’ll look at it. It’s awesome. But what’s your favorite part day to day?
Speaker 1
Honestly, my team, I say they’re divinely appointed. God gave me who I needed when I needed them. And, it’s just been working out so well. And it’s not that I’m a mastermind and great. I’m not great at interviews or HR or anything like that. It’s really, God gave me who I was supposed to have when I was supposed to have them.
Speaker 1
And they’re running.
Speaker 2
You’re using the gut instinct.
Speaker 1
Absolutely. The Holy.
Speaker 2
Spirit, that’s what.
Speaker 1
Absolute.
Speaker 2
That’s what that is. It’s hard to do. The head wants to take over. But if you allow that God to direct you a little, you’ll go in the place you want to go.
Speaker 1
Oh, absolutely incredible.
Speaker 2
So back to the MLB and NFL. Sure. Like admin people like what are ticket people?
Speaker 1
Ticket. Okay. Yeah. So we did some ticketing. We did concessions. Janitorial okay. Yeah. And so we did a little bit of everything there other than the admin. And what people don’t realize is a lot of these events, whether it’s arenas, you know, NBA, MLB and whatever, those people that are working the concession stand, they don’t work there all the time.
Speaker 2
Right? The 1099 type contractor or.
Speaker 1
No, they’re they’re not even that. They’re, only there one day a week. So they’re not even on.
Speaker 2
A side hustle.
Speaker 1
Basis. Exactly. And so that’s why the staffing agencies come in and they already have this roster of people that are available and able to work. And so, it’s a great model to be able to bring in people that you don’t have to constantly rehire. And if they get injured, they’re not on your worker’s comp. Gotcha. So it works out really, really well.
Speaker 2
And your software, what helps with the automation of that for the for the staffing companies, is that where that comes in?
Speaker 1
Yeah. So the clients are able to say, hey I need five people in Atlanta. I need 17 people in Chicago, I need 29 people in LA. And those staffing agencies in those areas are able to say, this is who’s coming. Okay. This is their names. Yeah. And so everything’s all in one place, even if you need temps in 330.
Speaker 2
Different, that’s good. Connect ability out there, man. Big. Totally. Yeah. Great to have you on the show. How about, what? What Cortland is talking about it. We met. You were talking off the air. I always go the holistic route first. I just will. I’m not against medical at all, but if I go to. If I have to, I will.
Speaker 2
But always try something that’s that homeopathic, if you will. You you kind of. We’re shaking your head like you were too.
Speaker 1
Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. My sister’s a pharmacist and, she’s a psychiatric pharmacist. And even she does a lot of studying about holistic health and naturopathy and homeopathy and all that stuff. And so we’re big believers in that side of things. Yeah. I feel like our body can heal itself in a lot of ways. Sure. So going to someone who can help our body along is always the best route.
Speaker 2
Cortland, what’s what’s reflexology? Is it just movement, getting adjustments? Why you move the body. What is reflexology or or pressure points. What is.
Speaker 3
It? So yeah. Reflexology. It’s you have a map of your body on your feet and your hands. Okay. And it’s working those points associated with that.
Speaker 2
So all nerve related things I would imagine, you know.
Speaker 3
And but you have multiple systems in the body, like you have the meridian system we work with a lot and reflexology is a little different. Okay.
Speaker 2
What’s the meridian? Tell me if the meridian is meridian.
Speaker 3
So just, for another example, you have your ocean currents. You know, they move through the world.
Speaker 2
Yep.
Speaker 3
And the ocean currents are no more than life dies on the planet.
Speaker 2
Yep.
Speaker 3
Meridian is how energy travels through the body. So you got your stomach ready. And your gallbladder. Yeah. Large intestine and those different meridians can either get shortened up or blocked.
Speaker 2
Okay. You know.
Speaker 3
The energy slows. Current in the ocean slows. Massive effect happens around that. Same thing with the body.
Speaker 2
Yep.
Speaker 3
Interesting you say. And then they’re related to the muscles and they’re related to a whole bunch of different things. Right. So that’s how acupuncture type of work okay. Yeah. Right. I’m working with the same system just with muscle testing. Yep. So I can do like enter your deltoid, which is, gallbladder. So maybe the pain and the issue is, oh, I’m also right there.
Speaker 3
Bone. Yeah. Yeah, maybe it’s an emotional issue. Maybe it’s a mental. Maybe. Where is the stress really coming?
Speaker 2
Okay.
Speaker 3
So that’s how I dress. It’s like, okay, we have all these levels of stress and it’s all coming down. Yeah, I’m different ways. And it’s just for me everything’s a giant math equation. Where’s the stress okay. How do we balance that out.
Speaker 2
Yeah. How about stretch. And I stretch a ton. It’s so good for me. It’s like my Zen. And I’ve been doing it for like three decades now. I got into it when I was a teenager and it’s just helped me tremendously. But when you’re at home, like you can almost get adjustments while you’re stretching, you know, maybe not as deep as you would in a chiropractic movement, but you can feel those little pop score you know, from different joints and spine areas.
Speaker 3
Yes, stretching is really important is it’s important to be loose and limber. So like, yeah, I’m confused.
Speaker 2
Yeah. By movement or loose. Yeah. Yeah. It’s not.
Speaker 3
About being.
Speaker 2
Totally.
Speaker 3
Yeah. They’re like they’ll go like poke you. Yeah. You. And they’re like, how loose are you? Yeah a cat, you never pet a cat and massage. Your cat’s muscles are like jelly. Yeah. That’s what you want a tight muscle with. That’s tight. Yeah. Pull the trigger points. Yeah. It’s not good. Yes. Like if you’ve done any rigging with ropes and not in your rope.
Speaker 3
That’s the weak spot. Yeah. The trigger points are in all those things. That’s the weak spot.
Speaker 2
In your back. Yeah. I took a little kung fu way back when. It’s all about that movement. Even stretchy. Like people think. You got to be stagnant. Stretching. That’s okay. But they do it all through movement and deep movements. I find it fascinating.
Speaker 3
Stagnancy. Yeah. Stretching is how you can hurt yourself. Great. Because there’s no oxygenation. There’s no.
Speaker 2
Blood flow. Yeah. All right, let’s wrap it up with this. We’ll start with you, Megan. What what’s the best part of your life other than family? Faith? You know, what’s the best part of of of just two years and what you do and how you live in your life?
Speaker 1
I would say probably the community angle of community service that I do. I sit on a couple boards and have a lot of incredible friends that are super involved. And I would say, like, I want to call it my network, but it’s not really that. It’s my it’s my friend group.
Speaker 2
You’re in a circle almost.
Speaker 1
Yeah. Like they’re they’re very well connected but they’re brilliant and great at what they do. And I don’t know, one of the great passions of mine is learning about worlds I didn’t know existed. And so, yeah, for instance, we were doing bugging out in California and then you realize that there’s this entire world of people who own dune buggies, and they literally just ride around and find places to dune buggy.
Speaker 1
And you’re like, how, like this exists? What is this? Yeah. And so I love finding people that are really involved in the things that I that, you know, and then learning about that, like, yeah, talking to an expert in that category. So that’s one of the great joys of my life. Yeah.
Speaker 2
That’s cool. How about you calling what would you say?
Speaker 3
What for, for me. I ran away from the whole wellness. I went to commercial diving for ten years.
Speaker 2
Oh, wow.
Speaker 3
They came back to this. Okay, so this is this, like, life purpose stuff, right? So, yeah, for me, seeing somebody get off the table, I said their posture is going to look like this when you get off the table and they’re like, yeah, whatever. Yeah. And then and then they’re like, wow, it really happened. And the kind of like that light bulb going on.
Speaker 3
That’s what I mean. That’s just that’s the best okay. Educating, seeing the community just get better. Yeah. And then just watching the ripples go that’s.
Speaker 2
What’s the largest creature have you seen in the ocean? Just out of curiosity, after ten years.
Speaker 3
Most of them I.
Speaker 2
I know it freaks me out too.
Speaker 3
Yeah. I couldn’t see anything, but I’ve kicked something. Oh, mid-water. That was so big. Oh. Launched myself back to the rich. Oh.
Speaker 2
Wow. That was an under the bridge. Wow. Wow. Unbelievable. Well, great to have you guys here. Appreciate the time. And, all the best. Keep up the good work. All right. That’ll do it for us this time around. Make sure you check out their profiles. This conversation, thousands of others go to the Daily News network.com website and you will see it all right there.
Speaker 2
Till next time, stay safe out there and be cool. We’ll see you right here on The Horse’s Mouth. Cheers!

